THE LARCHES: AN EARLY DIALOGUE


The Larches is a conversational piece with lifelike talk and discussion between Socrates and two generals: Nicias and Laches and their friends Lysimachus and Melesias. Lysimachus and Melesias have come to see the generals to ask their advice on the best education for their young sons. Socrates passes by and is invited in to the conversation.

The verbal technique becomes clear almost at once. Lysimachus asks Socrates first whether in his opinion boys should learn to fight in armoured combat. Socrates immediately asks Nicias for his view. Nicias argues in favour on the following grounds:

it is a healthy activity

Laches then speaks and disagrees. His points are these:

Lysimachus asks Socrates to decide between the two points of view. Socrates replies by asking Lysimachus whether he is going to follow the majority view (encourage the boys to learn martial arts) or not. Then turning to Melesias he asks 'Suppose you were taking advice about the sort of exercises your son should be performing to prepare himself for a competition; would you take guidance from the majority of us or from that one person who should happen to have been trained by and have exercised under a good trainer?'
Of course Melesias agrees with the second point of view.

This is a favourite stratagem of Socrates: to oppose the irrational habit of following the crowd in a given situation with the reasonableness of relying on expert knowledge.

You should now think of other situations where people sometimes follow the crowd rather than get expert advice.

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