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May 2001

There's been big problems keeping up to date with the email pages this month, for which huge appologies. As anyone who's written to me knows I do reply to all emails as quick as I can. So please keep sending them.

Yaofeng Chen writes:

It was 1969 and 1970, if I remember correctly, when the only TV station on the tiny island of Taiwan (do you know where that is?) half way around the world from Britain had two seasons of running taped British soccer games in black and white footage.  The TV station had the program on Saturday afternoon between 2PM to 3PM, a slot just to fill the time.  Taiwan started TV broadcast in 1964 or 1965.  In 1969, it still only broadcast a measly three hours in the afternoon and from 6PM to midnight. 

I was a high school junior in 1969 and football was my sports since 6th grade, however rudimentary the level of skill was.  The one hour broadcast every week was what I have to watch for those two years.  Sadly, it lasted only for those two precious year s because of lack of viewership.  But my only exposure to British football stayed with me to this day. 

The Charlton brothers (does Bobby Charlton have a brother who also played soccer?);
Gordon Banks (Sorry to learn he lost an eye in an accident.  He weighed 14 stones, I remember the commentator say.  What the heck is a stone, anyway? You weird Brits.)
George Best (The most prolific scorer, in my opinion);
Francis Lee (The whiniest center of Manchester City, with the blond hair.  Was there a Man. City,  in addition to the famous Man U.?);
Alan Clarke (Somehow my failing memory tells me he played for Everton); 
Both he and Francis Lee played for England in the 1970 Mexico World Cup.  Didn't they?. 
And the teams, Sheffield Forest (or was it Nottingham Forest?), Coventry, Westham U., Crystal Palace, Wimbledon, Leeds U., Liverpool, Man. City, Man. U., Everton...

Thank you for the memories.

Yaofeng Chen

Well in order Yaofeng, Bobby's brother is Jack Charlton; a stone is a unit of weight made up of 16 ounces- of which I very much doubt Banks ever had 14 whilst a player !; yes there is a Manchester City as well as a Manchester United (ask Kevin Keegan, their new manager); Allan Clarke was a Leeds United player - though his brother Wayne was an Evertonian for a while; Clarke and Lee were stars of England for Mexico 1970 - yes; I'd go for Nottingham Forest.

What a great letter, it brightened up my week, thanks very much.

Maureen wrote to me and asked:

Hi Bob!

      Hope you don't mind me e-mailing you but I am looking for the answer to a question, and search the web as I might the answer I can't find.Maybe you can help or point me in the right direction.       

"Which versatile player won an F.A.Cup winners medal and the County Championship in the same year, 1964?"                  

Thanks for your time!                             

Mo

Hi Mo,   Well I've never heard that one before, and I'm afraid I didn't know the answer without a bit of detective work.  

The FA Cup Winners in '64 was West Ham United and the team:   Standen, Bond, Burkett, Bovington, Brown, Moore, Brabrook, Boyce, Byrne, Hurst, Sissons.  

The County Championship side in ' 64 were Worcestershire.  

According to my 1978 edition of Wisden (!), J.A. Standen played for Worcester and Herts and he's got the same birthday as the West Ham goalie, so I guess it's him !  

Jim Standen (Portsmouth) is the answer ....   (I enjoyed that - I bet you've found out hours ago!!!)

Richard Rawles. Special thanks to Richard for sending me this memory ...

A vivid memory in my life was seeing Rodney Marsh crack a Pele like free kick
against Southampton. A Saints fan , I was also a fan of ³Roddersı.

Stood on the terraces right behind him he hit this shot from 25 yards out, a yard
wide of the goal, when the ball was a yard from goal it took a vicious swing
to the right and  clatterd against the stanchion.

Sadly 2-0 up at half time with another goal from Barry Bridges, Saints came bak to win 3-2 with goals from Ron Davies and Mick Channon. Rangers rise to the first from the third in three years ended in relegation back to the second.

Just to see the man walk the turf of the Dell gave me a thrill, a true
genius, in the mould of Pele, Best, Puskas, but a one off.
 

I love mails like this one - I never tire of them, thanks Richard.

Arne Seldorf wrote from Denmark, with this query

Dear Bob Dunning. My grandson Jonathan is very small, but an enthusiastic footballplayer. As far as I remember,  jinking Johnny Giles was rather small too. Could you please tell me his exact height ?. Yours sincerely Arne Seldorf.

You are right Arne, jinking Johnny Giles was only 5 foot 7inches tall - I'm not sure what that translates to in meters, however !

Andrew Turner wrote (last month actually, sorry for the delay, Andrew)

Dear Bob,

I love your Web Site (cheers- Bob) but that's not surprising as we are both support Leeds United and are the same age so share many of the same footballing memories of the early seventies. I'm  not as computer literate as you, otherwise I would have contributed to your articles by now as you have been listed in 'My Favourites' for over a year .

I own a book called '100 Great British Footballers' written by Trevor Brooking in 1983 that includes most of the star players of the 70's plus some earlier and some later. Almost by accident I bumped into Peter Beardsley who signed the book and since then, like your Web site, the task of completing it has grown. I have so far met 55 of the ex players featured and although I am not on any official stalkers list sometimes I feel like one.

Some of my success in locating these players has been as a result of the Pringle & Fissler book 'Where are the Now ?' which I know you refer to a lot. I've had their book for 5 years now, I only wish an up dated version would be published. I now have 37 ex-players left to reach. Through your Web site I  know where many of these players are now.

You have helped me locate amongst others Peter Thompson, Tony Green, Leighton James and Tommy Hutchison, and I have clues to many of the others. Of course knowing where they are and arranging to meet with them is another issue , I am reluctant to post the book to the ex players and anyway much of the pleasure is in meeting them, however briefly sometimes.

Some of the players featured have died and I was sorry to hear that Jim Baxter died yesterday so there is another I will not meet. In fact it was his death that encouraged me write to you as I have been meaning to for sometime but had difficulty when I tried to last time as I had to register through themestream (now sadly defunct - Bob).

Now that I have your E mail I address I could contribute to articles for 'Where are they now?' (Please do !- Bob) as my investigations have taken  me to the homes of Jimmy McIlroy (Burnley)  ,Cliff Jones (Tottenham) and I have visited Mick Channon at his stables. I also know where to find others although your  site includes most.

I hope you don't mind me attaching a list of those ex players I am still trying to reach as you maybe able to bring this to the attention of  your correspondents who may be able to help me further.

Thanks for a great site.

Andrew Turner.

The full list is : Peter Broadbent ;Bryan Douglas; Johnny Haynes; Dave Mackay; Ray Crawford; George Eastham; Alex Young; Derek Dougan; Alan Gilzean; Terry Paine; Johnny Byrne; Denis Law; Alan Mullery; Mike England; Geoff Hurst; Ian Callaghan; Ron Davies; John Jackson; Charlie Cooke; Peter Thompson; Jimmy Johnstone; Colin Harvey; Pat Jennings; Colin Bell; Dave Watson; Tony Green; Tommy Hutchinson; Stan Bowles; John Toshack; Peter Shilton; Malcolm MacDonald; Kenny Dalglish; Alan Hudson; Steve Perryman; Leighton James; Alan Devonshire.

Well a read of the site should fulfill a few more of those, Andrew. Alan Hudson is back at Chelsea in a promotional role, and Malcolm MacDoanld has his own website now. I have to say I'm VERY jealous of your project well done. Do write and tell us more.

David Parr wrote:

Hello.
I was having a discussion with my brother-in-law on cup final night about
Charlie George. My b-i-l said he had seen an interview with
Charlie George at
which point I stated that I thought he was dead.

Can you confirm who is correct.

Many thanks,

Dave Parr

Well he is still alive, I wonder if you confused him for George Armstrong, who died earlier this year.

Chris Burns wrote

Hi Bob,   How is Alan Hudson - is there a website that will give me details, plus anything on Ian Hutchinson (personal favourite).
Cheers,   Chris Burns.

Hi Chris,  

There's an interview with Alan Hudson in this month's 'Shoot!'. I'll try to include it on the site in the next month or so. He organised a benefit match on May 20 in Carshalton. He did do a regular web-column for Stoke City - but that seems to have ended, which is a shame because it was famous for his terrible made-up cockney rhyming slang.  

Ian Hutchinson it's a bit longer since I've heard what he's up to, I read an interview about his long throw-ins about a year ago, but nothing since.   If you hear anything yourself, just let me know and I'll include it on the site,   cheers   Bob  

See the Chelsea page

John Coutanche wrote to tell me

Just found your site purely by chance. Excellent content.  

I am E mailing to advise you that I have got a full 1970-71 WWoSS book as well, together with 1968-69, 1971-72, plus World Cup 1970 and 1974!  All complete!   I

f you want any more detail please contact me.   John  

Natrually, I'm completely jealous. And if you're selling ...

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Bob Dunning
28 May 2001

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